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Equivoque
May 11, 2016 18:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by chriswible on May 11, 2016 18:15:39 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by stefanalexxis on May 11, 2016 20:57:49 GMT -5
Rex, would love to see your thoughts.
I personally don't have a single approach to equivoke, outside of things that have already been mentioned, like keeping the actions consistent and anything possible to make it look as if it's THEIR choice that makes the difference. How I do it may vary from one effect to the next because what seems most natural in one circumstance may be awkward in another.
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Equivoque
May 12, 2016 4:47:29 GMT -5
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Post by RexD on May 12, 2016 4:47:29 GMT -5
Rex, would love to see your thoughts. I personally don't have a single approach to equivoke, outside of things that have already been mentioned, like keeping the actions consistent and anything possible to make it look as if it's THEIR choice that makes the difference. How I do it may vary from one effect to the next because what seems most natural in one circumstance may be awkward in another. Sent it to you.
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Post by rezamikhaeil on May 22, 2016 14:47:21 GMT -5
Hi Rex, I apologize for not seeing this sooner... it just dawned on me that I should check this forum. Needless to say I like your ideas a lot. Some of them I have read in Joshua Quinn's book "Paralies" but some were new. Even the ones that were a repeat, it was good to hear them reiterated and to hear the way for which you broke down those same concept(s). I like the "rule" system that you wrote because that's how I function when thinking about magic and mentalism. Great ebook, especially when you are offering it free of charge.
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Post by stefanalexxis on May 28, 2016 0:04:20 GMT -5
Heya Rex! Sorry to have disappeared for a bit but just DLed your work.I'm too zonked to read it tonight, but the bits I glanced at looked compelling. I'll get back to you when I get a better chance to read it properly.
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Equivoque
May 28, 2016 9:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by RexD on May 28, 2016 9:44:44 GMT -5
Heya Rex! Sorry to have disappeared for a bit but just DLed your work.I'm too zonked to read it tonight, but the bits I glanced at looked compelling. I'll get back to you when I get a better chance to read it properly. No problems. I would appreciate any criticism or advice on it.
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Post by stefanalexxis on Jun 7, 2016 0:16:24 GMT -5
Okay, I didn't mean to be gone this long :-)
I found the... what should I call it? A booklet? Anyway, it was well thought out and presented. I'm not sure I agree with every bit of it, especially the universal preference for destructive techniques, but I agree that going for elimination often gives better control over the situation. Docc Hilford has some material on why it's generally better to plan on hitting your force item last. I'm not sure where he may have that published, but I heard him expound on the idea at a lecture.
However, there's another principle dear to my heart, and it runs in the other direction. Not every effect allows you to put it into play, but when you can, it's beautiful. When possible, put the action before the choice.
Let me explain with an we all know: B'Wave. I learned it the way most of us did — choose (to put it in it's most abridged form) red or black (put down or hold onto the choice). Great! Now hearts or diamonds? Ta daa!
One day it struck me that it would give a much stronger illusion of control if I DID THE ACTION FIRST. "I'm laying down two cards. Now you tell me, did I set down the red cards or the black cards? Terrific. So now I turn over one card (held or on table) and put these two on top. You tell me, did I flip over the heart or the diamond?"
Implied is, "Hey, I couldn't have done anything sneaky, right? I did the action before you made a choice, so I couldn't have chosen my actions in response to your selections. You had complete control!"
I was very proud of myself for thinking of that. But shortly afterwards, I did something strange. I actually read Max's directions. And y'know what? I'd merely rediscovered what he'd put into his instructions in the first place, a wonderful little jewel that was ignored by every single magician I've ever seen perform that effect. Go figger!
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Post by murshid on Sept 22, 2016 13:30:31 GMT -5
I have my own thoughts on equivoque, which I was going to put in a book about mentalism, but I have decided to not release the project. If there are a few people interested, I'll be happy to distribute the document for free, which is my guide to equivoque, in order to contribute back to the community. I would also love to read what you have to say about equivoque.
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